Improving The Prospects Of People Living In Areas
Of Multiple Deprivation In England
First Advisory Group Meeting
11 February 2004
Present:
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Lord Rooker (Regeneration Minister) - Chair
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Des Browne (Minister for Work, DWP)
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Yvette Cooper (Parliamentary Secretary, ODPM)
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Fiona Mactaggart (Parliamentary Under Secretary, Home Office)
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David Henshaw (Chief Executive, Liverpool City Council)
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Vincent de Rivaz (Chief Executive, EDF Energy)
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Sukhvinder Kaur Stubbs (Director, Barrow-Cadbury Trust)
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Jonathan Blackie (Regional Director, Government Office for the North
East)
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James Bowler (Head of Housing and Urban Policy, HM Treasury)
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Jon Bright (Head of Neighbourhood Renewal Unit Implementation Division)
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Martin Gibbs (Senior Policy Advisor, Department of Health)
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Mohammed Haroon (Divisional Manager, Regional and regeneration division,
DfES)
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Bronwyn Hill (Director of Regional Transport DfT)
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John McTernan (Senior Policy Advisor, No10)
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Joe Montgomery (Director General, NRU)
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Ray Shostak (Director, Public Services Directorate, HMT)
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Rob Smith (Director General Regional Co-ordination Unit, ODPM)
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Claire Tyler (Director, Social Exclusion Unit)
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Patricia Greer (Deputy Director, Strategy Unit)
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Stephen Aldridge (Deputy Director, Strategy Unit)
The group discussed the SU/NRU findings from phase one of the project. In
particular, they were asked to comment on an analysis of the problem and
priority areas to address in phase 2 of the project.
In discussion the following points were made:
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Worklessness was recognised as a key driver of deprivation. Deprived
areas do not appear to have benefited from growth in the economy to the
same extent as the rest of the country. The importance of incentives to
work and the benefits system were highlighted as key issues.
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Although worklessness is an important factor it is not the only driver of
deprivation. The project needs to be careful to avoid over simplification
by assuming there is a single common driver of deprivation in all areas.
In practice, there are a number of stubborn problems in deprived areas
and all need to be addressed holistically when forming policy responses.
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The choice between targeting 'deprived people' as opposed to
'deprived places' was raised. The two should not be considered as
diametrically opposed because they often interact. For example, improving
outcomes for some residents (e.g. finding employment) may lead them to
leave an area unless the locality becomes a more attractive place to
live. In other places out-migration may be inevitable because there is
less chance of a sustainable economic recovery.
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The project has set out the drivers of decline or growth of an area in
relation to housing and liveability. It was suggested that it would be
useful to expand this analysis to include the drivers of economic
development and public service outcomes. The appropriate policy responses
would be clearer if the key drivers of growth and decline of an area are
thoroughly set out. These, in turn, will also allow a more rigorous
assessment of whether to focus on people or place-based policies.
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The roles of different agencies operating in deprived areas were found to
be complex and disjointed. A number of funding streams are ending soon
and the role of Regional Development Authorities will become more
crucial. There remain questions regarding the appropriate role of Local
Strategic Partnerships and Local Authorities. Appropriate governance
arrangements for area based initiatives (including New Deal for
Communities partnerships) were raised and the role of greater local
targeting was discussed. Appropriate delivery structures were considered
to be vital.
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The role of communities in the delivery of regeneration was viewed as
varied, but important to get right. There should be a greater focus on
the importance of leadership, capacity, trust, aspirations and culture in
local communities to ensure that any interventions are sustainable.
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The role of the private sector is crucial. More needs to be done to
encourage private investment in deprived areas and to encourage the
private sector to get involved in regeneration. There may be a tension
however between the long-term timelines of regeneration programmes and
the shorter time horizons of business.
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It was suggested that the project should look more closely at successes
as well as failures, and highlight the conditions for success and how to
achieve quick wins. It was suggested that the project should examine how
close particular areas are to 'tipping points' that will lead to
positively reinforcing improvements.
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The importance of opportunities, facilities, education and funding for
young people was emphasised.
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Funding was seen as something that can be used as a powerful tool to
incentivise and guide regeneration. However, it was noted that sometimes
projects are evaluated according to the quantities of funding they have
spent and not according to other measures of success and improvement. The
delivery chain and lines of responsibility for funding can be confused.
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A number of other points were raised - including suggestions that the
project look further at the issues raised by drugs, ethnicity, and
growing income differentials. The suggestion was made that case studies
of different deprived areas should be carried out.
Strategy Unit / Neighbourhood Renewal Unit
March 2004